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Hodgdon annual manual - Steven037 - 12-05-2020
The Hodgdon Annual Manual that’s out now has a decent article and a good amount of load info for anyone interested in it.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-05-2020
Does it have the 6mm Arc?
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Steven037 - 12-06-2020
Yes it does. Not a ton but it does. Good article as well.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-06-2020
Can’t find it actually on sale yet, but am looking forward to it. Wonder what some of those loads/powders might be............
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - StoneHendge - 12-06-2020
(12-06-2020, 02:08 AM)grayfox Wrote: Can’t find it actually on sale yet, but am looking forward to it. Wonder what some of those loads/powders might be............
Like everything else on shop.hodgdon.com, "Temporarily Out of Stock"
Lol
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-09-2020
I may have found one. Last one on the site. We’ll see if it gets delivered.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-18-2020
Finally got my hands on one, found at the local wally-world. It has an article with some loads in it as well as a section with loads. 100 gr Partition and up for the bullets in the load section. Article goes down to the 65 Vmax. Still looking through it.
Their barrel, near as I can tell (for the load section) is 24" probably receiver (bolt style) 7.5 twist, and using the Federal 205M small match primer.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Old Bob - 12-19-2020
Just ordered the 2021 Hodgdon manual from Midsouth Shooters Supply.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - StoneHendge - 12-19-2020
GF, any powders in there that Hornady didn't list data for or charge weights that noticably deviate from Hornady's?
Hornady 6ARC loading info - FatHorns - 12-19-2020
Haven't seen this here, but Hornady has loading info for the ARC.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-19-2020
They do show several other powders.
760, Lever, CFE223, 748, Blc2, Varget, Staball6.5,.
So, some of the Hornady's but some others.
In the article, he tested in addition to these, Benchmark (65 gr Vmax only), 8208xbr, H4895.
Velocities and powder wts seemed, imo, well, still kinda meh. They are under what Dino11 and I have been seeing.
In the load section, seems like not-so-typical bullets: 100 partition, 103 "Vprtrl Vtac", 107 Sie Hpbt (ok this one is normal), 110 Hdy A-tip (expensive LR bullet).
But there you have it.
I just got back from the range testing 90 Gr TGK's and Varget, using the Hdy 87-Vmax data (29.7 max) but seating out to 2.260 vice 2.140... I'm still looking at my data but somewhere in 29.3-29.7 I have a node, 2831-2870 ft/s in my 20" Faxon barrel.
Which would be great for a hunting bullet, great BC and using Varget for temp stability.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - StoneHendge - 12-19-2020
StaBall - that's an interesting one. Are the velocities up near CFE and Lever?
If you can get 2800+ with 90s and Varget you should be a happy man. My 95s at 2660 with Varget out of my 18" and Grendel case go exactly the same place at 50° as they did when I worked it up at 90°+. Now you just need to learn how to pronounce it. Input "hodgdon varget" in the left box and press play on the right.....
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RE: Hodgdon annual manual - grayfox - 12-20-2020
Pronounce? Hah!!! just use my own reg'lar guy accent. Var-Gett...............
The Staball numbers, you look to lose about 100-110 ft/s for their 103 and 107 gr loads at max.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Dino11 - 12-22-2020
I got my mits on one today, was at the local Tractor Supply standing in the checkout and their was a gentleman at the book rack paging thru a magazine. He set it down on the rack and lo and behold it was the Hodgden rag. so I stepped out of line and snagged it up, looked to see if they had any more to no avail. So I kinda feel a little lucky today.
I see they have a load for BL-C2 in there, that was the last load workup I did using PPC as a guide. Looks like my numbers were spot on for powder weight. I was thinking I was a little on the hot side, more felt recoil in the rifle. No signs of pressure and the velocity was pretty good as well as the accuracy. I have 8# of this stuff so it is good to know I can use it for the ARC. It is a pretty fast burning powder for this platform.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Lemonaid - 12-25-2020
Dino, I would posit that BL-C(2) is not on the fast side of the burn rate for the 6 Arc and it's kin, it's #110 and CFE 223 is #111 on this chart, Lever #113. http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2020/04/comparative-burn-rate-chart-lists-163-powders/
I have had some good results with BL-C(2) and the 87 v-max in my 6 PPC that I need to retest with a 10 round group some day.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Old Bob - 12-25-2020
I've had very good results with BL-C(2) with my .223 Rem Savage 110 with 80gr moly-coated Match King bullets... Right at .600" 5 shot, 5 group average (100yds). If I can find more BL-C(2) powder, it's on my to-do list for the 6mm ARC. I've had good results with .308 Win but can't find my data book for my Howa 1500.
I got a Merry Christmas email from Mark & Judy at Precision Firearms. In it they say they've been busy processing 6.5 Grendel & 6mm ARC barrels & their current run should get them caught up to October. That's good news for me. I placed my order on 9/23. They'll be shipping barrels next month.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - Dino11 - 12-25-2020
(12-22-2020, 09:11 PM)Dino11 Wrote: I got my mits on one today, was at the local Tractor Supply standing in the checkout and their was a gentleman at the book rack paging thru a magazine. He set it down on the rack and lo and behold it was the Hodgden rag. so I stepped out of line and snagged it up, looked to see if they had any more to no avail. So I kinda feel a little lucky today.I didn't get my info from that chart, but I do have that one. I printed it out and it is hanging on my wall in the reloading room. It just seemed a little hot for the load I was using. The chrono numbers were the telling factor. I need to load some more up and do another round of testing. But I don't have any empty cases right now. I am hoping that I can come across some brass or convert some Grendel brass to use. But the way the current market is I'm not going to hold my breath.
I see they have a load for BL-C2 in there, that was the last load workup I did using PPC as a guide. Looks like my numbers were spot on for powder weight. I was thinking I was a little on the hot side, more felt recoil in the rifle. No signs of pressure and the velocity was pretty good as well as the accuracy. I have 8# of this stuff so it is good to know I can use it for the ARC. It is a pretty fast burning powder for this platform.
RE: Hodgdon annual manual - StoneHendge - 12-25-2020
I'll probably never be able to prove that CFE 223 is simply a modernized BLC2. But I don't think anyone would be able to prove that it isn't.