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6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 07-11-2021
How long do you suppose the 6mm ARC will be waiting on a factory monolithic load?
I intend to hunt Whitetail deer this fall with the 6mmARC in a bolt action & am heavily considering loading an 80 gr GMX for this purpose. Expect to start load development next week.
Personally I would not consider using the 80 gr GMX at lower velocities experienced with 16" and shorter barrels.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - alwie - 07-12-2021
Seems to me that we need to get over the Covid-19 drag effect before the entire supply chain gets back to normal.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Shoreglide - 07-12-2021
I have a feeling it will be a longer wait than you’d like, due to the current state of affairs.
A short barrel would definitely have less useable range with a GMX. 2000fps is the bottom of their operating window for 80 & 90 grain GMX. Their current reloading book shows bolt gun muzzle velocity in the 3000-3100 range for both projectiles with a 24” barrel. That should make a fine deer round.
Picked up a couple boxes of Barnes 85 grain TSX a while back when they were about the only thing on the shelf at Cabela’s. At some point, I’ll see about working up a load if my barrel likes them.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Bologna - 07-13-2021
Ive been shooting 85 grain federal fusion copper hp pulls from American reloading, they are good for about an moa. Just got them for blasting ammo.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 07-14-2021
(07-13-2021, 11:26 PM)Bologna Wrote: Ive been shooting 85 grain federal fusion copper hp pulls from American reloading, they are good for about an moa. Just got them for blasting ammo.
Bologna, mind if I ask what propellant you have tried with the pulled Federal 85 gr Fusion copper Hp projectiles?
I have not shot those yet, though I did acquire 500 to give a go. Id expect those to do fairly well on saving fur.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Bologna - 07-14-2021
Leverevolution, I'll post my load when I get home tonight
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Bologna - 07-15-2021
85 grain pulled solid copper fusion hp
29.5 gr leverevolution
Oal 2.188
In a monster 20 in barrel
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Old Bob - 07-15-2021
Has anyone tried Cutting Edge monolithic bullets?
https://cuttingedgebullets.com/shop/cutting-edge-bullets/rifle-bullets?bullet_material=51&caliber=58
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Kublah - 07-19-2021
There is a little bit about them in this article
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/6mm-arc
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 07-24-2021
Made it out trying out 80 gr GMX at 2620 fps on water jugs, 50 yards down range this evening. The attached photo provides a bit insight of performance at the 2620 muzzle velocity.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 07-24-2021
The velocity was intentionally reduced with this test to reflect what may be close to a worse case scenario in terms of bullet expansion. we will see how accuracy and pressure work out with velocities closer to 3000 fps.
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1st two jugs just exploded which I expect may reflect what hydrostatic shock the game animal being dispatched may experience. I have no reservations with this kind of performance.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Tad_07 - 04-02-2022
Happen to have any updates or usage one animal? Look at the same bullet for hunting.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 04-02-2022
No experience here on game. I opted to go more traditional last fall. The expense of the Monolithics deter there use for me simply due to the fact I am not comfortable with the cost at the practice range. I do like to shoot more than average for sure & the monolithic just don't pencil out at the target range.
On game I do prefer to hunt with a bullet I have extensive experience with. I do anticipate a factory Monolithic out to market by this fall in the 6mm ARC based on a recent Hornady podcast. In the bolt action & longer ranges I am leaning towards the 90 gr CX that is just hitting the market now.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - Tad_07 - 04-03-2022
Feel you on the cost of practice, I have a variety to keep cost down...and reload. I don't mind a barrel cleaning and switch back to monos for hunting season. I saw the 90 CX and 95gr LRX, which I think would be options for hunting if the COL doesn't make them too long for a gas gun and the velocity is there. Already have a bolt 243 so no since in getting a bolt 6ARC for me. Factory offering would be nice, haven't listened to their last discussion on the 6ARC yet. Wish some other manufactures would pick it up too.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 04-03-2022
(04-03-2022, 08:14 PM)Tad_07 Wrote: Wish some other manufactures would pick it up too.
Have been thinking It can't be too long. Though until they are more able to fulfill their existing line up, Suppose we will be waiting for new offerings.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - SBRSarge - 04-03-2022
I’ll be as happy as can be when Barnes comes out with a 6ARC-velocity specific bullet and load with their TTSX. Or Hornady with their CX bullet for 6ARC velocities.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 04-04-2022
I expect the Hornady load is already out there with the GMX data. Suppose a guy may or may not be able to up the velocity / powder charge a smidge. in any case we will need to work up our loads in our given rifles. Otherwise I expect little or no major change., expect the heat shield tip is the more significant change. perhaps I am assuming too much.
I to will be interested if load data for the CX bullets changes much from the GMX offerings.
Find it interesting that the new .243 dia 90 gr. CX bullet BC is listed at .418 whereas the 90 GR GMX was listed with a BC of .422, Essentially the same though a step back from what I am seeing.
No not the same as we will see a significant price jump for the heat shield tip.
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 04-11-2022
Expect you will find this charming video does an extraordinary job of proving the utility of Monolithics in the 6mm ARC in this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSJgAXlES4
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020626017?pid=422799#reviews
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - BluntForceTrauma - 04-12-2022
Cute video. "I shot him with my Six-Awk!"
RE: 6mm ARC & Monolithic's - CZ527 Guy - 05-06-2022
Thoughts on the 90 gr Nosler E-tip at 6mm ARC velocitys?