Have everybody tried that bullets to ARC. Results/opinion?
Barnes 112grain match burner
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06-08-2024, 02:43 AM
I don’t have data but one guy who shoot an Arc at our range was testing them. IIRC they flew very well but on the slow side.
I recently bought a couple hundred of these. Shot a ladder using LeverEvolution powder. At 29 grains of Lvr had a velocity of 2670 fps with a sd of 7.4. If was very accurate in my 22” barrel ARC. Was shooting out to 600 yards. Wind was gusty so it was a little hard to hit the 8” plate. Overall was very pleased. Trajectory was plenty flat to 600 yards. About 13.5 moa if I remember correctly. This was a pretty reasonable load in my rifle, but as always, use at your own risk.
Edited to make some corrections.
06-18-2024, 12:38 PM
Swede, what twist is your barrel? Barnes says they need 1:8 or faster, and I am thinking Ruger's 1:7.7 ought to work.
06-18-2024, 01:53 PM
(06-17-2024, 08:06 PM)NDSwede Wrote: I recently bought a couple hundred of these. Shot a ladder using LeverEvolution powder. At 29 grains of Lvr had a velocity of 2670 fps with a sd of 7.4. If was very accurate in my 22” barrel ARC. Was shooting out to 600 yards. Wind was gusty so it was a little hard to hit the 8” plate. Overall was very pleased. Trajectory was plenty flat to 600 yards. About 13.5 moa if I remember correctly. This was a pretty reasonable load in my rifle, but as always, use at your own risk. Windy in ND, say it isn't so. That's a good SD and MV out of a 22" barrel.
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My barrel has a 1:7.5” twist. I think that’s standard for the ARC.
When I shot the ladder with these bullets and Lever powder the SD ranged from 7.4 - 15. I picked the 7.4 because I was shooting to 600 yards. I think there’s only an inch variation in drop at 600 with a 7.5 sd.
06-20-2024, 01:06 PM
Much miss info from sellers of the Howa 6arc guns!! Mine say 1:7.5
I have not tried these in it yet. But my 1:8 6 Rem shoots them WELL!! CW
My results with Lever and Barnes 112 MB. At 29.4 brass was showing ejector marks but good accuracy.
I cut the powder charge down to 29.0 and had good accuracy and ejector marks were mostly gone so I loaded 10 with cci 450 primer and 10 with Remington 7 1/2 primers, at 2.363 o.a.l. (-20 thou from lands) The cci 450's did well but the 7 1/2s first round showed near primer pierce and the second one did primer pierce. After adding the 112 MB stats to GRT it shows danger level starts at 27.6 grains and I think that will be close to MAX for me, possibly 28.0 My tests were with Hornady 6.5 Grendel converted brass and Starline 6 arc brass. This was using a factory Savage Ridge line bolt action.
07-16-2024, 01:28 PM
I was recently shooting this bullet out to 600 yards in my ARC. I was kind of disappointed. It was a very calm day for a change and the groups at 600 were disappointing. About 6"-8". I know a lot of things could be the cause of this, but for the cost of this bullets, I'm going to look elsewhere. I've got a bunch of Hornady 105 HPBT match bullets. The bc isn't as good as the match burners, but the price is much better and I've always had good results with Hornady hpbt match bullets. This is particularly true in my Grendel. It shoots the 140 hpbt lights out.
Maybe I'm just disappointed in my ARC. It's much more difficult to get it to shoot as well as my Grendel. I like the ARC because it has slightly less recoil and is earier to see impacts at 600. Just hard to get it to shoot well.
07-22-2024, 03:20 AM
(07-16-2024, 01:28 PM)NDSwede Wrote: I was recently shooting this bullet out to 600 yards in my ARC. I was kind of disappointed. It was a very calm day for a change and the groups at 600 were disappointing. About 6"-8". I know a lot of things could be the cause of this, but for the cost of this bullets, I'm going to look elsewhere. I've got a bunch of Hornady 105 HPBT match bullets. The bc isn't as good as the match burners, but the price is much better and I've always had good results with Hornady hpbt match bullets. This is particularly true in my Grendel. It shoots the 140 hpbt lights out. Try the Berger Hybrids, 109 or 105. I have shot some .3 moa groups at 600 with the 109’s. Just working on the 105’s now. I shot 3 groups, .3, .4 and .5 at 340 today. I’ll take them out to 600 & 1,000 as soon as it cools down.
08-05-2024, 12:08 AM
SpeyRod, what powder are you using?
I shoot a local 1/4 mile match once a month. A few of the guys are shooting match burners in 6.5 or .308, (I'm the only AR platform so far, and no other 6mm ARCs). Rifles on the line cover the complete gamut from 50 year old hunting rigs to $5,000 custom built rigs with 5R Bartlein barrels. The guys shooting the match burners are not winning. Of course that may be due to other factors? The guys who I consider my competition are all shooting either Bergers, or Sierra SMKs. This is not a high end match, and anyone is welcome. The winner gets a free lunch, (as does anyone who shows up, even spectators. A few guys are shooting whatever off the shelf ammo is in their closet. The match burners are less expensive, but IMHO, not by that much.
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