Upgrades to a stock bolt action rifle .
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I have retired from Tournament Bass Fishing and have started to sell all my extra stuff on eBay . This has given me some extra money , I thought I would use to fix up my 6arc.
So what can be done to a factory stock to enhance the stock. I had thought about a new one but wasn't able to find anything like what I was wanting.
Also if you could what would you have done to a rifle to make it more enjoyable .

Last what gun smiths do you guys use . Are they local or do you send it off?


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#2
You could start with bedding the action. I don't know what rifle you have but if it's a mini Howa that's what I'd do if you don't wanna replace the stock outright. You could replace the plastic trigger guard as well with one made of aluminum. DIP, Oregunsmithing or Jefferson Outdoors have some good replacement parts. I replaced the plastic on my 6.5 Grendel Mini with the Jefferson Outdoors hinged floorplate version.

https://jeffersonoutdoor.com/howa-mini-h...loorplate/

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(04-18-2024, 03:17 PM)Old Bob Wrote: You could start with bedding the action. I don't know what rifle you have but if it's a mini Howa that's what I'd do if you don't wanna replace the stock outright. You could replace the plastic trigger guard as well with one made of aluminum. DIP, Oregunsmithing or Jefferson Outdoors have some good replacement parts. I replaced the plastic on my 6.5 Grendel Mini with the Jefferson Outdoors hinged floorplate version.

https://jeffersonoutdoor.com/howa-mini-h...loorplate/

I do all my own work. Can't recommend a gunsmith ... Have fun ...
That blind mini floor plate looks nice ,if they just made one for a CZ . I do the big rough stuff but when it comes to fine work I cannot get my hands to do it.
I repaired the ceiling fan in my bedroom got it all done except the 3 teeny tiny screws that hold the cap on the bottom. 3 hours later I got my grandson to put them in . Not complaining I'm happy I'm here but there are some things I leave to others.

I haven't done the bedding yet , soon as my barrel gets back I'll find someone to do that. The cz has 2 screws holding the stock on , one has a (metal pillar ? ) the other just goes thru wood 

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#4
Is this a wood stock or plastic? Have you looked at Boyd's. Check out their Rapid Fire Sales. I've found 2 there for my Savage.
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(04-20-2024, 03:41 AM)KMW1954 Wrote: Is this a wood stock or plastic? Have you looked at Boyd's. Check out their Rapid Fire Sales. I've found 2 there for my Savage.
Wood Factory now and would go for a composite stock if lighter but aftermarket wood doesn't  seem to have any advantages . I am thinking so just have this stock done.
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#6
Bedding is great and solid bedding will adsolutely enhance the accuracy and use-fullness of the rifle.

But how do it shoot? Dont need ta be "fixin" stuff that aint broke.


As for a new stock thats what comes ta mind first. Along with better glass.

For a number of years this has been what I am doing. Streamlining my firearms using recovered funds to improve once that I kept.

CW
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#7
getting a chassis or a suppressor, or a nice muzzle brake will help. MDT makes great chassis. I'd also suggest taking a course on reloading to learn to use Gordon's Reloading Tool, to eliminate ammo guesswork and being able to go "off-book".
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(05-21-2024, 09:31 PM)Snow_Nigerian Wrote: getting a chassis or a suppressor, or a nice muzzle brake will help. MDT makes great chassis. I'd also suggest taking a course on reloading to learn to use Gordon's Reloading Tool, to eliminate ammo guesswork and being able to go "off-book".

Ok so here's where I'm at CZ carbine stock with a 24" Pac-Nor match grade barrel 1-7.5 twist, threaded with a Eric Cortina muzzle brake/Tuner a factory set trigger that has been worked with a Leupold  VX-5HD 3 x 15 side focus firedot scope and am in the process of bedding . I really cannot think of anything else to do except work up a good load for this gun and shoot

I don't know if the CZ527 carbine and the CZ527 American have the same stock , The carbine seems a little shorter but I have only seen pictures of the American version . But I don't think I could find a lighter better stock once it has been bedded.

I just started reloading , don't know much yet but trying , never heard of Gordon's Reloading tool will have to look that up
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As with building anything, a solid foundation is key, and it looks like you are working through all that with the rifle, good action, good barrel, cleaned up the trigger, and good glass, bedding in work so that should make the rig a solid setup butt to muzzle.

Reloading, always amazes me, just going from factory ammo to hand loads almost always produces the best results, and typically reduces flyers dramatically. Since you state that you are just getting started reloading, start simple, but be consistent, more than anything else in reloading, consistency moves you forward. Learn more techniques as you go, seating depth, finding a powder charge node, that primers make a difference, that reloading isn't cheaper than factory ammo.

You'll likely see from a lot of other threads, the various rabbit holes you can go down reloading seems to be infinite, the longer you reload, the more tools you get, after I got comfortable with the basic press, tumbler, and powder dispenser configurations, I added an annealer and trimmer which increase the longevity of your brass and help with uniformity.
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(05-22-2024, 11:26 AM)Bassfish1952 Wrote:
(05-21-2024, 09:31 PM)Snow_Nigerian Wrote: getting a chassis or a suppressor, or a nice muzzle brake will help. MDT makes great chassis. I'd also suggest taking a course on reloading to learn to use Gordon's Reloading Tool, to eliminate ammo guesswork and being able to go "off-book".

Ok so here's where I'm at CZ carbine stock with a 24" Pac-Nor match grade barrel 1-7.5 twist, threaded with a Eric Cortina muzzle brake/Tuner a factory set trigger that has been worked with a Leupold  VX-5HD 3 x 15 side focus firedot scope and am in the process of bedding . I really cannot think of anything else to do except work up a good load for this gun and shoot

I don't know if the CZ527 carbine and the CZ527 American have the same stock , The carbine seems a little shorter but I have only seen pictures of the American version . But I don't think I could find a lighter better stock once it has been bedded.

I just started reloading , don't know much yet but trying , never heard of Gordon's Reloading tool will have to look that up

This is just my thoughts, based upon research and several series of testing by Applied Ballistics and Reloading All Day, but Tuners simply don't work, and functionally work the same as a muzzle brake. Harmonics theory is not the foremost influence to accuracy or precision when shooting groups. The rest all looks good. Balancing the rifle will help with handling too if you intend to do PRS sort of stuff, otherwise not needed.

The beauty behind having a bolt gun rather than an AR15 is that you're able to take full advantage of the cartridges capabilities, and not limited to that 52k PSI from bolt thrust issues, and can take the full breadth up to 62k PSI. I'm trying to get a 6mm Arc bolt gun too Big Grin

As for reloading, and that gordon's reloading tool, you NEED to calibrate it for it to be anywhere accurate, and not run into any blown up actions or other issues. If you want good standard deviations on your shots, and creating less dispersion on your target, try for at least 95% case fill and 100% burn rate across all temperature ranges. You can do ladder tests on the fly to get rid of guesswork and save money too, as well observe the effects of temperature on your powder and how that influences your pressure increase or decrease. just as an example.. the attachment is a simulated model of a 14.5" 6mm ARC in a gas gun with 105gr Bergers using 25gr of AA2230 at 100°F. again, NEED to calibrate. opening it to a new tab will help see the whole image. You will not find AA2230 in any reloading book or data out there for 6mm ARC, from my observations and research.


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(05-22-2024, 06:28 PM)Snow_Nigerian Wrote:
(05-22-2024, 11:26 AM)Bassfish1952 Wrote:
(05-21-2024, 09:31 PM)Snow_Nigerian Wrote: getting a chassis or a suppressor, or a nice muzzle brake will help. MDT makes great chassis. I'd also suggest taking a course on reloading to learn to use Gordon's Reloading Tool, to eliminate ammo guesswork and being able to go "off-book".

Ok so here's where I'm at CZ carbine stock with a 24" Pac-Nor match grade barrel 1-7.5 twist, threaded with a Eric Cortina muzzle brake/Tuner a factory set trigger that has been worked with a Leupold  VX-5HD 3 x 15 side focus firedot scope and am in the process of bedding . I really cannot think of anything else to do except work up a good load for this gun and shoot

I don't know if the CZ527 carbine and the CZ527 American have the same stock , The carbine seems a little shorter but I have only seen pictures of the American version . But I don't think I could find a lighter better stock once it has been bedded.

I just started reloading , don't know much yet but trying , never heard of Gordon's Reloading tool will have to look that up

This is just my thoughts, based upon research and several series of testing by Applied Ballistics and Reloading All Day, but Tuners simply don't work, and functionally work the same as a muzzle brake. Harmonics theory is not the foremost influence to accuracy or precision when shooting groups. The rest all looks good. Balancing the rifle will help with handling too if you intend to do PRS sort of stuff, otherwise not needed.

The beauty behind having a bolt gun rather than an AR15 is that you're able to take full advantage of the cartridges capabilities, and not limited to that 52k PSI from bolt thrust issues, and can take the full breadth up to 62k PSI. I'm trying to get a 6mm Arc bolt gun too Big Grin

As for reloading, and that gordon's reloading tool, you NEED to calibrate it for it to be anywhere accurate, and not run into any blown up actions or other issues. If you want good standard deviations on your shots, and creating less dispersion on your target, try for at least 95% case fill and 100% burn rate across all temperature ranges. You can do ladder tests on the fly to get rid of guesswork and save money too, as well observe the effects of temperature on your powder and how that influences your pressure increase or decrease. just as an example.. the attachment is a simulated model of a 14.5" 6mm ARC in a gas gun with 105gr Bergers using 25gr of AA2230 at 100°F. again, NEED to calibrate. opening it to a new tab will help see the whole image. You will not find AA2230 in any reloading book or data out there for 6mm ARC, from my observations and research.
Gordon's is a no go for me unless I partition my drive and load a windows operating system . Not sure I am willing to do that just for 1 program but maybe
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