Hi GRH,
Now I'm delayed, we're tied.
I can't imagine getting a better trigger for an AR target gun and I don't mind the 2 stage at all so far, like it's not even there. Your pull with this level of trigger will become muscle memory and second nature in no time anyway.
I've already been using the 3 lb. total pull Geissele SSA-E trigger for several months with a 223 Wylde upper. I like this trigger very much, it was an instant accuracy and fun improvement, and I would get another one if I was to build another gun for a similar purpose. I'm watching to see if we get a 22 ARC or something close, and commercialized. For me personally, this is a straight out AR target trigger but no doubt there are more than plenty who could run this and do well with it in either a combat or competition situation.
I've also tried the SSA trigger which has a slightly heavier overall pull, 3.5 pounds total if I remember correctly. This trigger would have worked very well too, and not being used to either trigger at the time when I first tried them, the extra .5 lb. pull probably wouldn't have been noticeable had I not tried the triggers back to back. The 3.5 pounder was great, but 3 pounds was perfect for me.
The Geissele will go with the 6 ARC range/fun gun, and I'll get something heavier for the 223W, which now becomes the primary defense gun. I'll probably try an ALG ACT, which is an improved mil-spec trigger which has little if any lighter pull than full mil-spec, but with hopefully an improved break. I think they claim 4.5 to 6 pounds typical. Meanwhile I'll just go back to the mil-spec trigger I originally used as comes standard in the Anderson Manufacturing LPKs, which wasn't terribly terrible.
I very much recommend the Geissele video on their triggers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypb5HXdDJhc I've watched this a few times and now that it's come up again will probably watch it again soon to confirm the next trigger choice for the 223W. This guy speaks our language, very smart, and is totally decent about it. I picked out the SSA-E from watching this video, it sounded perfect for me and I've always been very happy with my choice.
I don't know anything about the Timney model you mentioned but I put a single stage Timney in my Savage 110, which is primarily for target/steel, adjusted to 3 pounds, and love it for what I do.
I had access to a 1000 yard shooting spot for years and shot lots of paper and steel at measured ranges of up to the 1000 yards. I had a couple of pretty good factory triggers but nothing aftermarket in all that time. Either of my triggers, the Geissele or Timney I have now, are better than I'll ever need them to be and better than any factory trigger I've ever had by at least some margin, so to me the bottom line is if one couldn't do it with either the Geissele or Timney trigger like we're talking about here, he couldn't do it with any trigger.
To be fair I can't keep up with all of the trigger offerings there are now and don't even try so there are possibly better choices than this. Take care.
Now I'm delayed, we're tied.
I can't imagine getting a better trigger for an AR target gun and I don't mind the 2 stage at all so far, like it's not even there. Your pull with this level of trigger will become muscle memory and second nature in no time anyway.
I've already been using the 3 lb. total pull Geissele SSA-E trigger for several months with a 223 Wylde upper. I like this trigger very much, it was an instant accuracy and fun improvement, and I would get another one if I was to build another gun for a similar purpose. I'm watching to see if we get a 22 ARC or something close, and commercialized. For me personally, this is a straight out AR target trigger but no doubt there are more than plenty who could run this and do well with it in either a combat or competition situation.
I've also tried the SSA trigger which has a slightly heavier overall pull, 3.5 pounds total if I remember correctly. This trigger would have worked very well too, and not being used to either trigger at the time when I first tried them, the extra .5 lb. pull probably wouldn't have been noticeable had I not tried the triggers back to back. The 3.5 pounder was great, but 3 pounds was perfect for me.
The Geissele will go with the 6 ARC range/fun gun, and I'll get something heavier for the 223W, which now becomes the primary defense gun. I'll probably try an ALG ACT, which is an improved mil-spec trigger which has little if any lighter pull than full mil-spec, but with hopefully an improved break. I think they claim 4.5 to 6 pounds typical. Meanwhile I'll just go back to the mil-spec trigger I originally used as comes standard in the Anderson Manufacturing LPKs, which wasn't terribly terrible.
I very much recommend the Geissele video on their triggers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypb5HXdDJhc I've watched this a few times and now that it's come up again will probably watch it again soon to confirm the next trigger choice for the 223W. This guy speaks our language, very smart, and is totally decent about it. I picked out the SSA-E from watching this video, it sounded perfect for me and I've always been very happy with my choice.
I don't know anything about the Timney model you mentioned but I put a single stage Timney in my Savage 110, which is primarily for target/steel, adjusted to 3 pounds, and love it for what I do.
I had access to a 1000 yard shooting spot for years and shot lots of paper and steel at measured ranges of up to the 1000 yards. I had a couple of pretty good factory triggers but nothing aftermarket in all that time. Either of my triggers, the Geissele or Timney I have now, are better than I'll ever need them to be and better than any factory trigger I've ever had by at least some margin, so to me the bottom line is if one couldn't do it with either the Geissele or Timney trigger like we're talking about here, he couldn't do it with any trigger.
To be fair I can't keep up with all of the trigger offerings there are now and don't even try so there are possibly better choices than this. Take care.