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  New From MI
Posted by: aknott1994 - 11-17-2021, 11:43 PM - Forum: Welcome New Members - Replies (3)

Hello, new here from MI, I have been shooting the ARC for about 6 months now and am starting to get into reloading for it, I finally have some brass built up to last.

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  n540 powder in stock
Posted by: alwie - 11-16-2021, 11:24 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (4)

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/sea...540+powder

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  Dillon presses and 6mm ARC
Posted by: SwissyJim - 11-15-2021, 06:18 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (5)

Anyone using a Dillon? I called Dillon to (back)order a 550 caliber kit to find out they have.a listing and part number for it... only it doesn't exist. 

Waiting for a tech guy to call back, but I'd assume one could use the shellplate and pins for 6.5Grendel. However the powder drop is another issue... a 6ppc perhaps? Altho I think my loads will mostly be hand measured...

Just curious if anyone has done this?

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  FNG
Posted by: SwissyJim - 11-15-2021, 04:28 PM - Forum: Welcome New Members - No Replies

Hidy ho 

Just signed up... yup, another gun forum!  Big Grin  Decided to try something new, and landed on 6mm ARC. Building a gas gun so we'll see how it goes. Fortunately was able to find ammo locally - when I called, guy said yes they had some because they can't get anyone to buy it. So I bought it. Mix of the Precision Hunter and Match, but really just want the brass.

Not gonna be a crazy build, really just using some spare parts I've had, only needed the bolt (JP Enhanced) and a barrel (Odin 18"). Really only going to target shoot to 300 unless I drive hours to the 1000yrd range, maaaaaybe try a caribou hunt with it if I get lucky in the permit draws, altho it'll be hard not to take my 6.5cm

Super curious to load for it... gathering some different bullets to try... hoping the Maker T-rex 85gr does well... I like Maker bullets in my 300blk SBR and 6.5cm

Anyways, looking forward to reloading info and tips... off to that section!

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  Hornady ELD-M & ELD-X at Midway USA
Posted by: Old Bob - 11-14-2021, 04:29 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - No Replies

Midway has a variety of 6mm bullets in stock right now which includes the two bullets in this thread's title. They have a habit of going out of stock quickly so get 'em while they're hot!

https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=6...perPage=48

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  Bad Rock
Posted by: Dino11 - 11-13-2021, 11:32 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Bolt Actions - Replies (1)

Think I want to order a rifle from these folks but really don't know to much about them. Anyone have any feedback, or know of anyone that has any of their equipment.

Still doing research on them to see if this is a viable option.

https://badrockrifles.com/

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  Factory ammo
Posted by: Bigdaddyjak - 11-13-2021, 05:24 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (6)

I think it’s incredibly ignorant for Hornady not to differentiate between ammo, very annoying !! So I have some 108 gr in a mag and 103 in another . There is no way to tell the difference, unless u weigh them . Why not use different color tips or something!!!

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  New Member
Posted by: Dgjr - 11-12-2021, 10:41 PM - Forum: Welcome New Members - Replies (2)

Hello,  New to 6mm ARC, I have a AR15 and a Bolt Gun in this cartridge.  I do a lot of reloading and looking to
learn more about this new cartridge and help if I can.

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  Starline Pocket Life
Posted by: StoneHendge - 11-12-2021, 06:50 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (13)

My recent experience with Starline rifle brass has been less than stellar as I sent 600 pieces of 6.5 LRP 6.5 CM brass to the recycling bin. I'll document the reason at the end of this post, but thought it might be caliber specific or due to it being brass made when Starline first started doing rifle brass. My experience with converting Starline 7.62x39 (LRP)to 243 LBC (or 243x39 as I call it) has been relatively good and has exceeded expectations, and there's an extensive thread on the Grendel forum about it. I'll also note that I have been impressed with it's weight consistency at it's price point.

I started with 400 pieces of nickle plated Starline 6.5 Grendel brass last fall. I was originally going to use it for 243 LBC match brass but then decided to use it as ARC brass after I bought my barrel. All of it was fireformed as 243 LBC and about 70 or so had a second firing as 243 LBC. Although this could have an impact on the neck and shoulder areas, it shouldn't effect primer pockets.

I have 374 left having lost a few at matches along the way. My load was 26.8 grains of Varget (27.0 Hornady book max for 105s). A handful were subjected to higher charges in load development, but for the most part they either had the fireforming load or that load through 3x. I switched to the RCBS Base Size die after all was 3x and settled immediately at 26.5 gr without going higher. Yes, my load is near max. In my chamber it could be slightly above max, but if so, not by much and it is certainly a workable load.

The punchline: I decapped 128 pieces that are now 4x. And my primer pocket gauge fit into 20 of them, which represents 15.6% of the 128. The fit was extremely snug in about 75% of those. Max primer pocket width is 1.745" and the width of the gauge is 1.740"according to calipers purchased at NAPA and 1.750" according to Hornady calipers. 

Quite disconcerting given what it takes to convert brass. Given the snugness of the fit, I am confident that they'll hold for one more as practice brass, but they will certainly be retired from match duty as a blown primer floating around the BCG or in the well around the trigger can end your day.

I'll update this as I move through the lot. Please add any experiences you might have had - hopefully I just got a bad lot.

The 6.5 CM brass: I bought 750 pieces in 2017. I weight sorted it and kept about 600 that were +/- 1% from the mean weight. I thought of it as a poor man's Lapua. I didn't shoot my CM much for a few years and got back on it last fall. Most loads were relatively mild, but each piece probably saw a max book load once with a few twice (140s at 2740 out of a 24"). About 5% didn't pass the gauge after 3x. Another 15-20% after 4x. At 5x I was tossing 40% of what remained and knew I needed new brass. I started running a near max load of Shooters World Precision with 123s (2870 out of a 22"). Took 100 rounds to my AR match using the CM iso my ARC for various reasons. Cleaned the first 6 of 9 targets on the first stage without a miss (including 4 at 640). Feeling pretty damn good settling into the 3rd position and had no trigger pull on the 7th shot. Blown primer stuck between bolt lugs and bolt carrier. Day over. Maybe I missed one with the gauge, but I decapped the 5 that were now 6x when I got home and the pockets were looser than Kamala Harris at a job interview in Willie Brown's office. Deconstructed the remaining 94 and all threw all of it into the recycling bin.

As an aside, I bought 300 pieces of Alpha Munitions LRP 6.5 CM brass and have been extremely impressed thus far. I went with it due to its reviews, no Peterson was available, it was 15% cheaper than Lapua, and it's Made in America. I weighed 20 and the sample weight STD was 0.3 gr with an ES of 0.9. That absolutely blows Lapua away. Hopefully they see an opportunity in ARC.

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  Anyone work with N140? Test results [edit]
Posted by: Thelaststraw - 11-11-2021, 11:11 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (5)

I have recently acquired a bunch of N 140 and was curious if anyone has worked with it yet. 

https://6mmarc.com/showthread.php?tid=124

It was mentioned here as being a preferred and optimal powder. While I had a great experience with the little bit of H4895 I had, I have zero experience with VV powders. All I know is people love them and they are $$$. Hornady has data on other stick powders that are generally similar to N 140 and has data for it with 108-110s. I don't shoot anything anymore other than 105s and smaller so I'm trying to extrapolate data from published stuff. VV has data on 6BR Norma but the 6 ARC is only ~86% of it's capacity among other differences I'm not aware of probably.

Would 25ish grains with a jump be a decent (safe) starting point perhaps? Or am I lowballing too much? I've run 26.5 to 27gr of H4895/105VLDs without problems but accuracy was at 26gr with minimal development...although a slow 2608 in a 24" Criterion barrel. My goal is 2750 at the very least for BC reasons, if I can get the speed with 95s they will match or better the 105s in wind. Any opinions and input is greatly appreciated.

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