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  My grail gun... What is yours?
Posted by: Dino11 - 11-06-2021, 11:52 PM - Forum: Various & Sundry - Replies (3)

Aside from precision rifle my other shooting passion is shooting pistols. I am a huge fan of the 1911 in 45ACP. I own some real nice ones and a couple of shooters that I loan out to friends and family when we go to the range. Most of my collection is high end, with a couple of custom builds.

But my Holy Grail gun is the S&W 4506 no dash gun, with adj sights. The reason for the no dash early gun is that the gun is all steel no MIM parts in it at all. These guns by many enthusiast are considered the best pistol ever made coming out of the factory. These guns in good condition are very hard to find.

A couple of days ago after a two year search I found the right candidate. I got my mits on a 4506 built in 1990 no dash gun, it had only 16 rounds fired through it to check for function. Then it was put in the safe not to see the light of day for 31+ years. I got it from the original owner. Everything was their, paperwork, box tools, factory cleaning kit, you get the picture. This was not just a good find, it was a blessed find. Price was not a good deal, but it was a fair deal, I by all means did not overpay. Gave the guy the money and headed home, it was a 230 mile round trip that was worth every minute of it.



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  6mm ARC deer hunt 2021
Posted by: CZ527 Guy - 11-05-2021, 05:47 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Hunting & Varminting - Replies (5)

Seems like that time of year is upon us or nearly so. Like to invite our 6mm ARC fans to submit an account of their Choice to use or not use the 6mm ARC on this years deer or even hog hunt.

Like to hear the first hand account of your experiences & choices for shot placement, like neck or heart lung or my goal for this year the high shoulder brachial plexus shot.

Good luck & looking forward to hearing from you all.

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  Will anybody else make factory 6mm ARC ammo?
Posted by: Patrickb4365 - 11-03-2021, 05:33 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (17)

Is 6mm ARC going to grow beyond Hornady so that there are other factory ammo choices? I plan to mostly load my own but it would be nice to have some other choices and also it just speaks to how popular the cartridge is becoming. I'm wondering if maybe it's not catching on as quickly as Hornady expected. Comments/opinions? Thanks.

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  Hornady load data over max pressure in QuickLoad
Posted by: Patrickb4365 - 11-03-2021, 04:44 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (18)

Hey. I picked up a CMMG 6mm ARC 20" (Endeavor 300 series) AR-15 this year and am in process of developing loads for it. I also just purchased and am learning the QuickLoad software.

I'm using the Hornady 108g ELD Match bullet and Varget.

Hornady lists a starting load of 24.5 (2,200 FPS) and max load of 27.2 (2,450 FPS).

When I model the max load of 27.2 QuickLoad shows that as way over max pressure at 59,033 psi. Gas gun maximum pressure is 52,000 psi.  So this surprises me and makes me wonder that maybe I'm using QuickLoad incorrectly or is it simply inaccurate when estimating pressure or is Hornady publishing loads that are over pressure?

According to QuickLoad I'd have to reduce the Varget charge from 27.2 to 26.05 to get under the 52,000 psi limit.

QuickLoad has the 6mm ARC cartridge at 34.5g water max case capacity.  I've read that it might actually be 34. If I change QuickLoad to 34 it estimate the pressure even higher. I haven't measure my Hornady factory brass for capacity. 

Any theories on this or experience using 6mm ARC in QuickLoad and have suggestions for improving the QuickLoad results?

I'll include a screen shot of my QuickLoad settings and here's a link to image in case it doesn't show up here.

Thanks.

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  Bullet Comparisons- Bgr 95, RDF 105, Hdy 108 ELDN
Posted by: r.tenorio671 - 11-01-2021, 02:55 AM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (4)

...as my components SLOWWWLLLLY  Rolleyes trickle in I capture data on the bullets, some of which I share so others can get an idea before they drop dollars on something "sight unseen".  The data that I share is "generic" in nature, everybody's individual barrel differs.

..the image below is of 3 bullets that indicate where the base of the bullet would be if that specific bullet was seated to a COAL of approximately 2.255" to fit in virtually any magazine used in a gasser.  The image gives an idea of how much of the powder space would be affected for that bullet if seated to that COAL.  The tips of the bullets are aligned at the 2.255" COAL of the dummy cartridge on right with a 105RDF seated.  

CAVEAT:  Depending on the actual ogive type of the bullet, seating to a max COAL of 2.260 for magazine fit MAY NOT be possible, the chamber dimensions of individual barrels influence that.  As an example, the bullet on the far left is the Berger 95gn Hunter Classic with a Hybrid Ogive and the "touch" point of that bullets ogive in MY BARREL is approximately 1.731".  If that bullet is loaded to 2.255 the ogive will be at  approximately 1.785", a 0.054 jam into the lands of  MY BARREL definitely not good for pressure!   For  MY barrel, that bullet has to be seated deeper..... YMMV

Bullets left to right:  Berger 95 Classic Hunter, Nosler 105 RDF, Hornady 108 ELD-M, seated 105 RDF.



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  Base size charge vs "normal" size charge
Posted by: StoneHendge - 10-28-2021, 09:28 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (10)

My new RCBS Base Size dies are showing up today to replace my Hornady's. I went with them since reliable feeding is my primary objective (one bad feed can ruin a stage and hence your day!). Plus Larry is blowing them out the door for $27 a set. Worth a try at that price before going "boutique"

I recall from years ago that my velocity went up going from virgin brass (which is base sized) to normal full sized brass and it was a noticable amount. I'm going to tweak my load and if I assume the same velocity is going to me the same accuracy, I should increase the charge slightly. 

I know - seems counterintuitive. Anyone have recent experience in any caliber? Or among those who did load development with virgin brass and are now on fired "normal" sized brass.

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  BLC-2(c)
Posted by: riggeek - 10-23-2021, 01:48 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (5)

Has anyone tried BLC-2© to powder?

I have an 8 pound jug of this and was thinking of trying under some 87 grain VMAX bullets.

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  WTS - Starline 6.5 Grendel brass
Posted by: StoneHendge - 10-18-2021, 11:18 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Buy, Sell, or Trade - Replies (3)

SOLD

Five 100 count bags of Starline 6.5 Grendel brass from Brownells. $85 per 100. Shipping is $9 for a USPS Priority Padded envelope (all 5 will fit in one) or $15 if you want it in a box. Wish I could do better, but I had bought this for a rainy day and it turns out that I need new 6.5 Creedmore brass, and I'm going to be paying market prices for the "boutique" stuff, so this will be funding it. I'm putting this up here and in the Grendel forum for a couple of days and then will be listing it on that website that we all love to say we hate at the going rate there (which is higher).

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  WTS ATN X-sight 4k PRO 5-20X day(20-52X WITH EXTENDED ZOOM) AND ABL 1500
Posted by: Mel - 10-17-2021, 09:55 PM - Forum: Miscellaneous Buy, Sell, or Trade - No Replies

Selling my 4kpro abl combo

scope new is 800$ and abl is 379$

package deal at 900$ shipped including stock ir / rings and abl 1500
this scope has been flawless for me day/night and even elr shooting i have used this scope to shoot an 18in gong at over 1900y
scope has a few minor scratches and is missing usb/sd card rubber cover as they tend to fall off and most ppl cover with velcro
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  Hornady Dies
Posted by: StoneHendge - 10-15-2021, 09:05 PM - Forum: 6mmARC Ammunition and Reloading - Replies (16)

They flat out suck! 

I tolerated scratching of my nickel brass. I'd polish the die, get 2 or 3 clean ones, then the scratches came back. 

Same homemade lube (10% lanolin / 90% isopropyl alcohol) I use flawlessly in RCBS, Redding and Forster dies. Scratched the crap out of the first one and was sticky. Was bumping down 0.005" last sizing session. Checked first one and there was no bump (should have been 0.005" since I use a Lock N' Load). Twisted it down a little and lubed the inside of the die a little. A lot of friction and on trying to raise the ram and then:

   

No country of origin stated anywhere on the die, box, or in the instructions. We all know where they come from.

End rant.

Looks like I'll be using my PRS 6.5 CM for the next AR match. It'll be a bit like bringing a semi auto howitzer to a gun fight.

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